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The Element makes the Pontiac Aztec look like a beauty contest winner.  Honda expected the young folk to buy the Element, but all the few I’ve seen around here are driven by old guys.  Must be those with Glaucoma  LOL

What about Toyota’s new Scion line?  Apparently they also think young people like underpowered boxes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You must be referring to the Element. Yes, disgusting but in a tie with that Pontiac Aztec. As ugly as the Element is, it doesn’t tie with the Aztec (it wins hands-down for the ugliest vehicle to hit the road in a long, long time).

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You must be referring to the Element. Yes, disgusting but in a tie with that Pontiac Aztec. As ugly as the Element is, it doesn’t tie with the Aztec (it wins hands-down for the ugliest vehicle to hit the road in a long, long time).

True.  The only close one to it is (was) the Isuzu VehiCross.

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You must be referring to the Element. Yes, disgusting but in a tie with that Pontiac Aztec.

As ugly as the Element is, it doesn’t tie with the Aztec (it wins hands-down for the ugliest vehicle to hit the road in a long, long time).

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As ugly as the Element is, it doesn’t tie with the Aztec (it wins hands-down for the ugliest vehicle to hit the road in a long, long time).

After reading this I must clarify that I meant the Aztec is the ugliest, not the Element. Sorry!

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The Element makes the Pontiac Aztec look like a beauty contest winner.  Honda expected the young folk to buy the Element, but all the few I’ve seen around here are driven by old guys.  Must be those with Glaucoma  LOL – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You must be referring to the Element. Yes, disgusting but in a tie with that Pontiac Aztec. As ugly as the Element is, it doesn’t tie with the Aztec (it wins hands-down for the ugliest vehicle to hit the road in a long, long time).

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You must be referring to the Element. Yes, disgusting

Actually I can live with something that has a reason to look like it does. Yes the Element is a brick but a damned clever brick, what with hoseable rubber mats and no central pillars, plus headroom to the stratosphere. As an example, who worries about the artistic qualities of a cube van?

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What can I say, except "AMEN!!" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling. And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back.

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My Lincoln LS has chromed aluminum wheels, it came from the factory that way.  ;) mike hunt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just free spinning and expensive. Some Guido attempted to sell me a pair when looking for chrome wheels for my Expedition. Too bad most manufacturers are cheap (Chrysler excluded) to make chrome wheels an option. Ken Are you sure there are no powered models?  The car was stationary for a heck of a long time and they kept on rotating at what appeared to be a constant rate.  Would be neat if they had remote control motors so you could adjust the speed and direction as you drove so the car looked stationary.  In fact, lets hook them into the AT directly. They are not powered, simply free wheeling.  Expensive and made of plastic.  They stick out past the wheel and are easily damaged by curbing. mike hunt Have you seen those powered hubcaps which spin independently of the wheel?  I think they are great (for someone else to own).

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Just free spinning and expensive. Some Guido attempted to sell me a pair when looking for chrome wheels for my Expedition. Too bad most manufacturers are cheap (Chrysler excluded) to make chrome wheels an option. Ken

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Are you sure there are no powered models?  The car was stationary for a heck of a long time and they kept on rotating at what appeared to be a constant rate.  Would be neat if they had remote control motors so you could adjust the speed and direction as you drove so the car looked stationary.  In fact, lets hook them into the AT directly. They are not powered, simply free wheeling.  Expensive and made of plastic.  They stick out past the wheel and are easily damaged by curbing. mike hunt Have you seen those powered hubcaps which spin independently of the wheel?  I think they are great (for someone else to own).

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Best I’ve even seen were: ixlr8 run ya Ken

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 78 VW Rabbit was a very successful exercise in styling.  If you remember, it was one of the first cars to do away with chrome bumpers.  Mine was off-white Best "vanity" plate I ever saw was on a White Rabbit:  IML8 IML8 Got wood? Check out my exotic hardwood pennywhistles at fair prices…http://www.Busmanwhistles.com

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78 VW Rabbit was a very successful exercise in styling.  If you remember, it was one of the first cars to do away with chrome bumpers.  Mine was off-white

Best "vanity" plate I ever saw was on a White Rabbit:  IML8 IML8 Got wood? Check out my exotic hardwood pennywhistles at fair prices…http://www.Busmanwhistles.com

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Have you seen those powered hubcaps which spin independently of the wheel?  I think they are great (for someone else to own).

The new RR Phantom has magnetic hub caps which always keep the "RR" pointed right-side up!

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The new RR Phantom has magnetic hub caps which always keep the "RR" pointed right-side up!

They are actually weighted.

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Hmm, You must be referring to the Element. Yes, disgusting but in a tie with that Pontiac Aztec. I also hate those taillight pods. It’s a kid thing. Looks like J. C. Whitney threw-up on the vehicle. Ken

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling.  And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back.

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I hate to admit it but many of the VW products look pretty good to me. I’m talking about their higher end models.  Still I would never buy another VW.

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Are you sure there are no powered models?  The car was stationary for a heck of a long time and they kept on rotating at what appeared to be a constant rate.  Would be neat if they had remote control motors so you could adjust the speed and direction as you drove so the car looked stationary.  In fact, lets hook them into the AT directly.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They are not powered, simply free wheeling.  Expensive and made of plastic.  They stick out past the wheel and are easily damaged by curbing. mike hunt Have you seen those powered hubcaps which spin independently of the wheel?  I think they are great (for someone else to own).

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Have you seen those powered hubcaps which spin independently of the wheel?  I think they are great (for someone else to own).

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1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling.  And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back.

Excellent observation.  The old tricks no longer generate the "wow" effect as did the styling excesses of the ’50s. To my eye, the ‘78 VW Rabbit was a very successful exercise in styling.  If you remember, it was one of the first cars to do away with chrome bumpers.  Mine was off-white and had a very stylish red racing stripe down the sides.  Very clever, those Germans.  All done with paint!  Proves that tastefull styling can be accomplished at low cost and no added weight or air friction.

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They are not powered, simply free wheeling.  Expensive and made of plastic.  They stick out past the wheel and are easily damaged by curbing. mike hunt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Have you seen those powered hubcaps which spin independently of the wheel?  I think they are great (for someone else to own).

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling. And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back. Excellent observation.  The old tricks no longer generate the "wow" effect as did the styling excesses of the ’50s. To my eye, the ‘78 VW Rabbit was a very successful exercise in styling.  If you remember, it was one of the first cars to do away with chrome bumpers.  Mine was off-white and had a very stylish red racing stripe down the sides.  Very clever, those Germans.  All done with paint!  Proves that tastefull styling can be accomplished at low cost and no added weight or air friction.

If you considered a painted box to be stylish.  :-) Matt

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Funniest one I’ve seen is a body decal designed to look like a little vent or louver. I saw one the other day on a car just behind the front wheel well– I guess you are supposed to think that this Neon, or whatever it was was so muscular that the brakes would overheat slowing it down unless they had additional ventilation… Got wood? Check out my exotic hardwood pennywhistles at fair prices…http://www.Busmanwhistles.com

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I love seeing weird modifications to older cars. I have seen some real gems here in N Texas– The best ever: I saw a ‘57 Chevy 4-door, beat up but proud, hand painted in gold (brush strokes, paint slopped on the trim and lenses). The owner had applied letters from the hardware store to the tailfins that read: "707 JET." This was subtle compared to an old Chevy pickup belonging to a local artist called "The Texas Kid."  He had attached all manner of hardware to every horizontal surface, the best being figures from sports trophies, and a huge pair of bull horns on the hood. These vehicles fit into the category of "art cars," I guess. As far as the "latest" styling trends, am I the only one who is sick of these snazzy wheels-?  For my money, a PT Cruiser with blackwalls, beauty rings and baby moons would be hard to beat. It would look "antique." But–nobody at Chrysler asked me… Buzzy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Funniest one I’ve seen is a body decal designed to look like a little vent or louver. I saw one the other day on a car just behind the front wheel well– I guess you are supposed to think that this Neon, or whatever it was was so muscular that the brakes would overheat slowing it down unless they had additional ventilation… Got wood? Check out my exotic hardwood pennywhistles at fair prices…http://www.Busmanwhistles.com

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1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling.  And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back.

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1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling.  And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back.

That stupid Honda thing looks like a high top athletic shoe.  It makes the AMC Pacer look as graceful as an eagle by comparison.

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1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling. And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back.

Hey, they could manufacture big polyvinyl aftermarket tail fins with the 3-d chrome taillight pods in them.  Just think, you could install them in minutes – everyone could have a pair. Some people, in a meager effort at trying to distinguish themselves would put dual pairs on their cars

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1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling.  And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back.

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1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling.  And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back.

That stupid Honda thing looks like a high top athletic shoe.  It makes the AMC Pacer look as graceful as an eagle by comparison.

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1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling. And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back.

Hey, they could manufacture big polyvinyl aftermarket tail fins with the 3-d chrome taillight pods in them.  Just think, you could install them in minutes – everyone could have a pair. Some people, in a meager effort at trying to distinguish themselves would put dual pairs on their cars

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Funniest one I’ve seen is a body decal designed to look like a little vent or louver. I saw one the other day on a car just behind the front wheel well– I guess you are supposed to think that this Neon, or whatever it was was so muscular that the brakes would overheat slowing it down unless they had additional ventilation… Got wood? Check out my exotic hardwood pennywhistles at fair prices…http://www.Busmanwhistles.com

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I love seeing weird modifications to older cars. I have seen some real gems here in N Texas– The best ever: I saw a ‘57 Chevy 4-door, beat up but proud, hand painted in gold (brush strokes, paint slopped on the trim and lenses). The owner had applied letters from the hardware store to the tailfins that read: "707 JET." This was subtle compared to an old Chevy pickup belonging to a local artist called "The Texas Kid."  He had attached all manner of hardware to every horizontal surface, the best being figures from sports trophies, and a huge pair of bull horns on the hood. These vehicles fit into the category of "art cars," I guess. As far as the "latest" styling trends, am I the only one who is sick of these snazzy wheels-?  For my money, a PT Cruiser with blackwalls, beauty rings and baby moons would be hard to beat. It would look "antique." But–nobody at Chrysler asked me… Buzzy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Funniest one I’ve seen is a body decal designed to look like a little vent or louver. I saw one the other day on a car just behind the front wheel well– I guess you are supposed to think that this Neon, or whatever it was was so muscular that the brakes would overheat slowing it down unless they had additional ventilation… Got wood? Check out my exotic hardwood pennywhistles at fair prices…http://www.Busmanwhistles.com

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Have you seen those powered hubcaps which spin independently of the wheel?  I think they are great (for someone else to own).

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1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling.  And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back.

Excellent observation.  The old tricks no longer generate the "wow" effect as did the styling excesses of the ’50s. To my eye, the ‘78 VW Rabbit was a very successful exercise in styling.  If you remember, it was one of the first cars to do away with chrome bumpers.  Mine was off-white and had a very stylish red racing stripe down the sides.  Very clever, those Germans.  All done with paint!  Proves that tastefull styling can be accomplished at low cost and no added weight or air friction.

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They are not powered, simply free wheeling.  Expensive and made of plastic.  They stick out past the wheel and are easily damaged by curbing. mike hunt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Have you seen those powered hubcaps which spin independently of the wheel?  I think they are great (for someone else to own).

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling. And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back. Excellent observation.  The old tricks no longer generate the "wow" effect as did the styling excesses of the ’50s. To my eye, the ‘78 VW Rabbit was a very successful exercise in styling.  If you remember, it was one of the first cars to do away with chrome bumpers.  Mine was off-white and had a very stylish red racing stripe down the sides.  Very clever, those Germans.  All done with paint!  Proves that tastefull styling can be accomplished at low cost and no added weight or air friction.

If you considered a painted box to be stylish.  :-) Matt

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Are you sure there are no powered models?  The car was stationary for a heck of a long time and they kept on rotating at what appeared to be a constant rate.  Would be neat if they had remote control motors so you could adjust the speed and direction as you drove so the car looked stationary.  In fact, lets hook them into the AT directly.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – They are not powered, simply free wheeling.  Expensive and made of plastic.  They stick out past the wheel and are easily damaged by curbing. mike hunt Have you seen those powered hubcaps which spin independently of the wheel?  I think they are great (for someone else to own).

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I hate to admit it but many of the VW products look pretty good to me. I’m talking about their higher end models.  Still I would never buy another VW.

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78 VW Rabbit was a very successful exercise in styling.  If you remember, it was one of the first cars to do away with chrome bumpers.  Mine was off-white

Best "vanity" plate I ever saw was on a White Rabbit:  IML8 IML8 Got wood? Check out my exotic hardwood pennywhistles at fair prices…http://www.Busmanwhistles.com

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Have you seen those powered hubcaps which spin independently of the wheel?  I think they are great (for someone else to own).

The new RR Phantom has magnetic hub caps which always keep the "RR" pointed right-side up!

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The new RR Phantom has magnetic hub caps which always keep the "RR" pointed right-side up!

They are actually weighted.

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Hmm, You must be referring to the Element. Yes, disgusting but in a tie with that Pontiac Aztec. I also hate those taillight pods. It’s a kid thing. Looks like J. C. Whitney threw-up on the vehicle. Ken

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling.  And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back.

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Just free spinning and expensive. Some Guido attempted to sell me a pair when looking for chrome wheels for my Expedition. Too bad most manufacturers are cheap (Chrysler excluded) to make chrome wheels an option. Ken

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Are you sure there are no powered models?  The car was stationary for a heck of a long time and they kept on rotating at what appeared to be a constant rate.  Would be neat if they had remote control motors so you could adjust the speed and direction as you drove so the car looked stationary.  In fact, lets hook them into the AT directly. They are not powered, simply free wheeling.  Expensive and made of plastic.  They stick out past the wheel and are easily damaged by curbing. mike hunt Have you seen those powered hubcaps which spin independently of the wheel?  I think they are great (for someone else to own).

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Best I’ve even seen were: ixlr8 run ya Ken

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 78 VW Rabbit was a very successful exercise in styling.  If you remember, it was one of the first cars to do away with chrome bumpers.  Mine was off-white Best "vanity" plate I ever saw was on a White Rabbit:  IML8 IML8 Got wood? Check out my exotic hardwood pennywhistles at fair prices…http://www.Busmanwhistles.com

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My Lincoln LS has chromed aluminum wheels, it came from the factory that way.  ;) mike hunt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just free spinning and expensive. Some Guido attempted to sell me a pair when looking for chrome wheels for my Expedition. Too bad most manufacturers are cheap (Chrysler excluded) to make chrome wheels an option. Ken Are you sure there are no powered models?  The car was stationary for a heck of a long time and they kept on rotating at what appeared to be a constant rate.  Would be neat if they had remote control motors so you could adjust the speed and direction as you drove so the car looked stationary.  In fact, lets hook them into the AT directly. They are not powered, simply free wheeling.  Expensive and made of plastic.  They stick out past the wheel and are easily damaged by curbing. mike hunt Have you seen those powered hubcaps which spin independently of the wheel?  I think they are great (for someone else to own).

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You must be referring to the Element. Yes, disgusting but in a tie with that Pontiac Aztec.

As ugly as the Element is, it doesn’t tie with the Aztec (it wins hands-down for the ugliest vehicle to hit the road in a long, long time).

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As ugly as the Element is, it doesn’t tie with the Aztec (it wins hands-down for the ugliest vehicle to hit the road in a long, long time).

After reading this I must clarify that I meant the Aztec is the ugliest, not the Element. Sorry!

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The Element makes the Pontiac Aztec look like a beauty contest winner.  Honda expected the young folk to buy the Element, but all the few I’ve seen around here are driven by old guys.  Must be those with Glaucoma  LOL – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You must be referring to the Element. Yes, disgusting but in a tie with that Pontiac Aztec. As ugly as the Element is, it doesn’t tie with the Aztec (it wins hands-down for the ugliest vehicle to hit the road in a long, long time).

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You must be referring to the Element. Yes, disgusting

Actually I can live with something that has a reason to look like it does. Yes the Element is a brick but a damned clever brick, what with hoseable rubber mats and no central pillars, plus headroom to the stratosphere. As an example, who worries about the artistic qualities of a cube van?

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What can I say, except "AMEN!!" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1.  Those 3-d chrome taillight pods.  Enough already.  At first it was unusual looking, now every freaking car and SUV has them.  Talk about stick-on styling. And now people are even putting them on old cars, makes me think of the lame-ass fad of people putting rectangular headlights on their old cars in the 70’s to make stupid people think they’ve got a new hoopty. 2.  Plastic body cladding/fenders.  Ugly, dull, colorless.  Why put ANY metal on the outside of the car, just make a big giant version of a Weinermobile and make the whole skin out of polyvinyl.  That new SUV thingee (a Honda I think?) is the worst – big grey, plastic squares just stuck onto the fenders.  How attractive.  Chevy Avalanche is a runner-up. 3.  Both 1 and 2 are making me wish they’d bring the tailfin back.

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The Element makes the Pontiac Aztec look like a beauty contest winner.  Honda expected the young folk to buy the Element, but all the few I’ve seen around here are driven by old guys.  Must be those with Glaucoma  LOL

What about Toyota’s new Scion line?  Apparently they also think young people like underpowered boxes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You must be referring to the Element. Yes, disgusting but in a tie with that Pontiac Aztec. As ugly as the Element is, it doesn’t tie with the Aztec (it wins hands-down for the ugliest vehicle to hit the road in a long, long time).

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You must be referring to the Element. Yes, disgusting but in a tie with that Pontiac Aztec. As ugly as the Element is, it doesn’t tie with the Aztec (it wins hands-down for the ugliest vehicle to hit the road in a long, long time).

True.  The only close one to it is (was) the Isuzu VehiCross.

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