Hubert Mak wrote: > I guess you already try one or more of these eyedrops(drugs). Why you > need more?  It will benefit to all readers in this group if you > can post your experience with these eyedrops(drugs). > Thanks in advance. > ——————————————————–

Good suggestion. In random order, Pilocarpine does a decent job on pressure but constricts the pupil to the point where not much light comes through, making vision quite dim in the eye in which it’s used–also, there are cautions about possibly causing cataracts. Timoptic (and Cosopt since the same drug is in it) also does a good job on pressure, but tends to reduce respiratory capacity in a person with an asthma history, and seems to affect urination. Cosopt also seems good with pressure, but is irritating to me and has the Timoptic effects, plus I’m concerned about the other ingredients affect of red blood cells since I have a family history of anemia. Xalatan, again, is good with pressure but I’m starting to get some discoloration of my eyelids, and notable iris darkening. Alphagan and AlphaganP are good on pressure, but are very difficult for me to use as my eyes get quite red, burning and itching. Both Travatan and Lumigan made my eyes feel unbearably uncomfortable and had to be discontinued rather quickly. Currently I’m using Xalatan at night, and Cosopt night and morning. Hope this information is helpful to you, and others.

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I guess you already try one or more of these eyedrops(drugs). Why you need more?  It will benefit to all readers in this group if you can post your experience with these eyedrops(drugs). Thanks in advance. ——————————————————– On 19 Mar 2005 halt…@aol.com wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I wonder what the newest glaucoma medications might be. I am familiar > with Alphagan, AlphaganP, Travatan, Lumigan, Cosopt and the older > Timoptic, Pilocarpine, but wonder if there are any more recent ones > that have been helpful with POAG. > Thanks

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Tom wrote: > I havent heard of the urination problem with timoptic.  What is that?  Also, > I am not sure if timoptic has > effect on red blood cells although it certainly has > an effect on the heart.

"Urination difficulties" is listed on the package insert with timolol maleate. Carbonic anhydrase inhibitors (a Cosopt ingredient) are reported to accululate in red blood cells and possibly affect blood cells in a manner similar to sulfonamids.

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. Xalatan, again, is > good with pressure but I’m starting to get some discoloration of my > eyelids, and notable iris darkening.

I sometimes feel like I’m pouring lemon juice in my eyes with Xalatan and other times no stinging at all? Anyone know why this is? Al C.

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"Al C." <crankinh…@optusnet.com.au> wrote in news:42513911$0$5190$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au: > . Xalatan, again, is >> good with pressure but I’m starting to get some discoloration of my >> eyelids, and notable iris darkening. > I sometimes feel like I’m pouring lemon juice in my eyes with > Xalatan and other times no stinging at all? Anyone know why this is? > Al C.

Al, Never had any pain problems with Xalatan (Trusopt was another story!)   Not sure why the stinging would be inconsistent like that though. You could try putting a lubricant drop in about 10-15 min before using the Xalatan (no sooner – you don’t want to dilute the Xalatan!) Sherry

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<halt…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:1111347968.366030.276320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hubert Mak wrote: > > I guess you already try one or more of these eyedrops(drugs). Why you > > need more?  It will benefit to all readers in this group if you > > can post your experience with these eyedrops(drugs). > > Thanks in advance. > > ——————————————————– > Good suggestion. In random order, Pilocarpine does a decent job on > pressure but constricts the pupil to the point where not much light > comes through, making vision quite dim in the eye in which it’s > used–also, there are cautions about possibly causing cataracts. > Timoptic (and Cosopt since the same drug is in it) also does a good job > on pressure, but tends to reduce respiratory capacity in a person with > an asthma history, and seems to affect urination. Cosopt also seems > good with pressure, but is irritating to me and has the Timoptic > effects, plus I’m concerned about the other ingredients affect of red > blood cells since I have a family history of anemia. Xalatan, again, is > good with pressure but I’m starting to get some discoloration of my > eyelids, and notable iris darkening. Alphagan and AlphaganP are good on > pressure, but are very difficult for me to use as my eyes get quite > red, burning and itching. Both Travatan and Lumigan made my eyes feel > unbearably uncomfortable and had to be discontinued rather quickly. > Currently I’m using Xalatan at night, and Cosopt night and morning. > Hope this information is helpful to you, and others.

I havent heard of the urination problem with timoptic.  What is that?  Also, I am not sure if timoptic has effect on red blood cells although it certainly has an effect on the heart.

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I wonder what the newest glaucoma medications might be. I am familiar with Alphagan, AlphaganP, Xalatan, Travatan, Lumigan, Cosopt and the older Timoptic, Pilocarpine, but wonder if there are any more recent ones that have been helpful with POAG. Thanks

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -eyegu…@aol.com wrote: > halt…@aol.com wrote: > > I wonder what the newest glaucoma medications might be. I am familiar > > with Alphagan, AlphaganP, Xalatan, Travatan, Lumigan, Cosopt and the > > older > > Timoptic, Pilocarpine, but wonder if there are any more recent ones > > that have been helpful with POAG. > > Thanks > Lumigan was the most recently released drop.  Nothing new has come out > since. > –Rick Cohn, MD

Istalol is fairly new (2004) but as far as I can tell the only advantage over other brands of timolol is that it is once a day dosing. I think the side effects would be the same. -Gudrun

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halt…@aol.com wrote: > I wonder what the newest glaucoma medications might be. I am familiar > with Alphagan, AlphaganP, Xalatan, Travatan, Lumigan, Cosopt and the > older > Timoptic, Pilocarpine, but wonder if there are any more recent ones > that have been helpful with POAG. > Thanks

Lumigan was the most recently released drop.  Nothing new has come out since. –Rick Cohn, MD

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Brought a memory of my Henri back along with a few tears. Many many Purrs for your friends catMelissa, and for Tristan and Alexi too. And major healing Purrs for your friend Donna              Jean.P.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. ( Melissa was a dilute brown tabby kitty born in 1987, and my friend, Donna, has had her since she was a kitten. But in the past few years, Melissa had developed trouble with her heart and kidneys, as well as glaucoma. Donna kept tabs on her health as best she could, including regular vet visits, but she knew that Melissa’s remaining time was limited. Today, the vet had to break the news that Melissa’s kidneys had shut down. So Donna had to make the decision to give Melissa the one remaining form of relief, the final act of mercy. And she’s heartbroken. Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too. One sad Auntie Donna, feeling like even nine lives aren’t long enough

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Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too.

Purrs for Melissa’s journey and for the family she left behind — Elise (supervised by Gossamer & Jeeves)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. ( Melissa was a dilute brown tabby kitty born in 1987, and my friend, Donna, has had her since she was a kitten. But in the past few years, Melissa had developed trouble with her heart and kidneys, as well as glaucoma. Donna kept tabs on her health as best she could, including regular vet visits, but she knew that Melissa’s remaining time was limited. Today, the vet had to break the news that Melissa’s kidneys had shut down. So Donna had to make the decision to give Melissa the one remaining form of relief, the final act of mercy. And she’s heartbroken. Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too. One sad Auntie Donna, feeling like even nine lives aren’t long enough

Comfort purrs for Donna.  Candle lit for Melissa’s safe passage to the Bridge. Sam, assisted by Mistletoe

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I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. ( Melissa was a dilute brown tabby kitty born in 1987, and my friend, Donna, has had her since she was a kitten. But in the past few years, Melissa had developed trouble with her heart and kidneys, as well as glaucoma. Donna kept tabs on her health as best she could, including regular vet visits, but she knew that Melissa’s remaining time was limited. SNIP One sad Auntie Donna, feeling like even nine lives aren’t long enough

Purrs and blessings for my little namesake kitty on her journey over the bridge.  But she was a lucky cat in life, having had such a devoted and responsible slave to care for her. (((Hugs, Donna))) You’ll have many, many years with Captain and Stanley to enjoy before you must face that last goodnight.  But my sympathy to your friend.  I chose Francesca because I wanted a lovely brown tabby, so I feel for the other Donna’s loss. Melissa

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Lots of purrs and hugs, — Polonca & Soncek

I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. (

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. ( Melissa was a dilute brown tabby kitty born in 1987, and my friend, Donna, has had her since she was a kitten. But in the past few years, Melissa had developed trouble with her heart and kidneys, as well as glaucoma. Donna kept tabs on her health as best she could, including regular vet visits, but she knew that Melissa’s remaining time was limited. Today, the vet had to break the news that Melissa’s kidneys had shut down. So Donna had to make the decision to give Melissa the one remaining form of relief, the final act of mercy. And she’s heartbroken. Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too. One sad Auntie Donna, feeling like even nine lives aren’t long enough

{{{{Donna}}}} I am so sorry. Gentle purrs going out for your friend’s healing and for Melissa’s journey to the Bridge, as well as Tristan and Alexi. Ginger-lyn Home Pages:   http://www.spiritrealm.com/summer/   http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glsummer (homepage & cats)   http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~summer/index.htm (genealogy)   http://www.i-love-cats.com/meow/glsummer/ (The Violence Against                                              Animals in Movies Website)

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I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. (

Purrs for Donna and a candle lit for Melissa. Even when you know there is no choice it’s always difficult. — Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat.

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I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. ( (snipped)

We will light a candle for Melissa, and send purrs of condolence for your friend. —— Krista

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rec.pets.cats.anecdotes : Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too.

Awww.. condolences to your friend. Purrs being sent for her heart, and for Melissa’s journey to the bridge. — Cheryl

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. ( Melissa was a dilute brown tabby kitty born in 1987, and my friend, Donna, has had her since she was a kitten. But in the past few years, Melissa had developed trouble with her heart and kidneys, as well as glaucoma. Donna kept tabs on her health as best she could, including regular vet visits, but she knew that Melissa’s remaining time was limited. Today, the vet had to break the news that Melissa’s kidneys had shut down. So Donna had to make the decision to give Melissa the one remaining form of relief, the final act of mercy. And she’s heartbroken. Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too. One sad Auntie Donna, feeling like even nine lives aren’t long enough

"Rise up slowly, Angel.  It’s hard to let you go…"   Sincere condolences to those who grieve.   MLB

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. ( Melissa was a dilute brown tabby kitty born in 1987, and my friend, Donna, has had her since she was a kitten. But in the past few years, Melissa had developed trouble with her heart and kidneys, as well as glaucoma. Donna kept tabs on her health as best she could, including regular vet visits, but she knew that Melissa’s remaining time was limited. Today, the vet had to break the news that Melissa’s kidneys had shut down. So Donna had to make the decision to give Melissa the one remaining form of relief, the final act of mercy. And she’s heartbroken. Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too. One sad Auntie Donna, feeling like even nine lives aren’t long enough

Awwww. Please give her a big hug. I’m so sorry. Purrs to the whole clan.

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Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too.

Poor little thing.  May Melissa find a peaceful path to walk.  I  hope your friend Donna’s heart doesn’t stay broken for too long. Regards and Purrs, O J

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. ( Melissa was a dilute brown tabby kitty born in 1987, and my friend, Donna, has had her since she was a kitten. But in the past few years, Melissa had developed trouble with her heart and kidneys, as well as glaucoma. Donna kept tabs on her health as best she could, including regular vet visits, but she knew that Melissa’s remaining time was limited. Today, the vet had to break the news that Melissa’s kidneys had shut down. So Donna had to make the decision to give Melissa the one remaining form of relief, the final act of mercy. And she’s heartbroken. Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too. One sad Auntie Donna, feeling like even nine lives aren’t long enough

Purrs for you all, its the hardest and easiest decision to make for our kitties. Kathryn

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Please pass along our deepest condolences for your friend. — Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. ( Melissa was a dilute brown tabby kitty born in 1987, and my friend, Donna, has had her since she was a kitten. But in the past few years, Melissa had developed trouble with her heart and kidneys, as well as glaucoma. Donna kept tabs on her health as best she could, including regular vet visits, but she knew that Melissa’s remaining time was limited. Today, the vet had to break the news that Melissa’s kidneys had shut down. So Donna had to make the decision to give Melissa the one remaining form of relief, the final act of mercy. And she’s heartbroken. Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too. One sad Auntie Donna, feeling like even nine lives aren’t long enough

Please give your friend Donna our sincere condolences and many purrs to help comfort her and to accompany Melissa to the Rb. Christine and Omar, Oreo, Midnight, Robin & Tucker

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I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. (

Many purrs and prayers for a safe passage to the bridge. ( Helen M

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I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. (

Soothing purrs on the way for your friend, her kitty and other kitties and for you, the sad auntie.  It’s so hard to let loved ones go. Jill

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. ( Melissa was a dilute brown tabby kitty born in 1987, and my friend, Donna, has had her since she was a kitten. But in the past few years, Melissa had developed trouble with her heart and kidneys, as well as glaucoma. Donna kept tabs on her health as best she could, including regular vet visits, but she knew that Melissa’s remaining time was limited. Today, the vet had to break the news that Melissa’s kidneys had shut down. So Donna had to make the decision to give Melissa the one remaining form of relief, the final act of mercy. And she’s heartbroken. Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too. One sad Auntie Donna, feeling like even nine lives aren’t long enough

Memories of my poor little Mimi.  But it sounds like Melissa had a wonderful, and long life.  Purrs for all concerned. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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Awww.  Purrs for your friend’s broken heart and a candle lit for her kitty’s safe passage to the bridge. Hugs, CatNipped

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. ( Melissa was a dilute brown tabby kitty born in 1987, and my friend, Donna, has had her since she was a kitten. But in the past few years, Melissa had developed trouble with her heart and kidneys, as well as glaucoma. Donna kept tabs on her health as best she could, including regular vet visits, but she knew that Melissa’s remaining time was limited. Today, the vet had to break the news that Melissa’s kidneys had shut down. So Donna had to make the decision to give Melissa the one remaining form of relief, the final act of mercy. And she’s heartbroken. Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too. One sad Auntie Donna, feeling like even nine lives aren’t long enough

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I just got off the phone with a good friend, who called in tears with the news that she’d had to put her elderly cat down. ( Melissa was a dilute brown tabby kitty born in 1987, and my friend, Donna, has had her since she was a kitten. But in the past few years, Melissa had developed trouble with her heart and kidneys, as well as glaucoma. Donna kept tabs on her health as best she could, including regular vet visits, but she knew that Melissa’s remaining time was limited. Today, the vet had to break the news that Melissa’s kidneys had shut down. So Donna had to make the decision to give Melissa the one remaining form of relief, the final act of mercy. And she’s heartbroken. Purrs of consolation for my friend Donna, and for my little kitty niece’s peaceful journey to the RB, will be appreciated. Purrs for the other kitties (Tristan, 14, and Alexi, 4) in the household will be appreciated, too. One sad Auntie Donna, feeling like even nine lives aren’t long enough

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Tom wrote: > So is the theory that increased pressure in the eye > causes decreased blood flow to the optic nerve?

That’s one theory…another is that elevated pressure itself causes death of axons (nerve fibers).  I’m sure that there is some component of both going on in most patients. –Rick Cohn, MD

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So is the theory that increased pressure in the eye causes decreased blood flow to the optic nerve?

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Just a point of interest… You might also approach a Dr. Henry Nyongesa who was researching Diabetes management systems at post Doc level.  He was researching at Brunel University, W. London, UK but has since moved on since I was a researcher there. Good luck on that thesis! Martin. — — Martin B. T2 since 1998.  Insulin user since 2001. MDI:  NovoRapid (3 x 36u) / Levemir (Split 42u am & 35u pm) Metformin  /  Atorvastatin  /  Losartan Potassium

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dear list members, I would like to ask you for your help. A patient with glaucoma myself, I am currently undertaking my PhD in computer science. For this I plan to develop a system which can help and support us in the management of our conditions. Since the system should suit your needs it would be excellent if you could take part in a survey that I have prepared to find out in how far such a system can help you. To take part in the survey or to find out more about the project, please go to: http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~dj20/Questionnaire/Survey.html Thank you very much – I really appreciate your help! Doris Jung, University of Waikato, New Zealand

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Dear list members, I would like to ask you for your help. A patient with glaucoma myself, I am currently undertaking my PhD in computer science. For this I plan to develop a system which can help and support us in the management of our conditions. Since the system should suit your needs it would be excellent if you could take part in a survey that I have prepared to find out in how far such a system can help you. To take part in the survey or to find out more about the project, please go to: http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~dj20/Questionnaire/Survey.html Thank you very much – I really appreciate your help! Doris Jung, University of Waikato, New Zealand

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Since AOL wants to desert us glaucoma patients(and all Usenet), I went to http://groups.google.com and subscribed to their glaucoma site.  Looks like it may be all right for now.

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dwallac…@aol.com (David L.W.) wrote in news:20050128214122.12810.00000329@mb-m11.aol.com: > Since AOL wants to desert us glaucoma patients(and all Usenet), I > went to http://groups.google.com and subscribed to their glaucoma > site.  Looks like it may be all right for now.

Glad you can stick with us here. There are also some glaucoma yahoo groups you might look into.  My recommendations are Glaucoma (monitored by Dr. Robert Ritch, who originally established this usenet group) APUP YUP (if you’re younger Congenital Glaucoma (if you have that or have a child with that) Living With Glaucoma Glaucoma-diabetesupport The Glaucoma and APUP groups are fairly busy and the glaucoma group is the biggest of the lot. Go to groups.yahoo.com and do a search on Diabetes, but be forewarned, there are also some junk groups there. Sherry

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s’ok, Kevin.. i’m sorry also, i shouldn’t even be posting today, it’s not the best time for me right now, let’s put this behind us, i got bigger fish ta fry, i’m sure you do too. ~tanya

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I did know them…the ‘betting it was’ was geared towards blaming the AD as you have stated here and many times before it’s crap and does nothing.

Wait, I fucked that up. The original poster mentioned his friend was on many AD’s so it’s safe to assume one of this person’s problems was depression. And of course other factors are tied into suicide but depression is most likely the ending feeling that urges one to end thier lives as they give up. I’ve been suicidal since the age of 16 and my Aunt killed herself not to long ago due to depression when her meds stopped working and that’s where I’m coming from. I’m sorry for the losses in your life Tanya but don’t assume you know what I go through at times having to fight not to drive off the highway head first into a ditch. Anxiety are the least of my problems. I know you yourself have other problems besides anxiety as well and sure it’s a struggle. By the way, when I wrote those posts Tuesday I wasn’t feeling like myself and I do apologize for doing so. Kevin..

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I’m not Steve.

scuze me, Kevin. No age was mentioned (only in his teen years). If it was younger then the blame goes on the parent.

that was NOT my point, the age.  the point is.. a psychiatric relationship is one with parent/child overtones, as the patient is generally ultra-dependent on the psychiatrist, the psychiatrists accepts this dependency, as a professional, and when he takes on this dependency and responsibility for this person’t emotional well-being, the patient accepts his judgement and medication instructions with trust that has been created, trust that suggests protection of the patient, and the methods he chooses to employ are obeyed by that patient/child.  so no matter the age, the dynamics are the same. I did know them..(was one your sibling, the person you were engaged to marry,

your best friend in life, the person you spent 24/7 with in a shop and living space?)  or where these casual acquaintences? .the ‘betting it was’ was geared towards blaming the AD as you have stated here and many times before it’s crap and does nothing.

so what?  i took exception to the statement that their depression was to blame, not the medication.  and i’ve stated MANY times, these medications have PROVEN DOCUMENTED side effect, depression being one, and not one documented case of measurable improvement.  and i stand by "it’s crap"… to prescribe patients drugs with "depression as a side-effect" IS crap.  to blame the depression, is to sometimes blame the drug, (sometimes not, as some had depression just as seriously as before the med) and to blame the drug, is to blame the shrink that prescribed it.  actually, there IS no blame.  blame is a pitiful petty assesment of an event of such proportions.  WHO THE FUCK CARES WHO’S TO BLAME? JUST DON’T GO ROUND BLAMIN ANYONE, BECAUSE OF THEIR DEPRESSION!  BLAME NO ONE, OR LEAVE BLAME OUT OF THE EQUATION! I walk many miles in those shoes twice a month so you have 2 suicides a month in your life?  people near and dear to you? that seems a bit impossible. and came very close ending it too many times.

close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.  and how does one "come close" to offin’ themselves. is that like bein almost pregnant?  Which I’m sure one of these days I will blow my head off so don’t fuckin tell me I don’t know how it feels.  

you DON’T know how it feels.. you ain’t blown yer head off yet… lemme know after ya do.  til then, you have no knowledge. and what’s with "one of these days"… you waitin for a special moment, or you soliciting sympathy from others for your victim mentality…. which is it? I was comparing to the bullshit they place on benzos. AD’s do help many with depression (I wasn’t talking anxiety).

and insulin helps with diabetes.  and if a person without diabetes is prescribed insulin, it can kill.  same with ADs.. wrongly prescribed?  the results can be tragic.   and as i said, ADs can cause depression in some, and to blame the person with the AD motivation depression is insane.   That was your assumption of my ignorance. I never told you about the above so please ask next time before assuming anything.

assumption of WHAT ignorance?  where did i assume?  unless i totally responded to the wrong post, i’m thinkin i just got the name wrong. and by the way, i think i’m just a tad to close to this suicide situation to be discussing it.  it upsets me, i don’t want that for myself.  i don’t wanna talk about it any further. ~tanya

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i talked with my preacher and i talked to my psychiatrist.

"Alberto" <sp…@nothx.com> wrote in message <news:9tRad.37469$H11.1257238@twister1.libero.it>… > Hello, > I have a pressure of 20 in both eyes and I am short-sighted,  so my doctor > suggested a computerized visual field test. I had the test, but I was so > anxious that I will have to try it again in a couple of months. Actually I > don’t know whether I will be able to stay calm next time, so I was thinking > of having a different kind of exam to test whether I have glaucoma. I have > heard about GDX and HRT : do you know which one is more effective? Are both > exams non-invasive and painless? > Thank you very much for your help > Alberto

The visual field test is not worth getting all worked-up over.  If you miss a few spots, it’s not that important…the machine will retest spots that you miss.  It is more important to stay calm and to try to focus on the aiming spot directly in front of you.  As for the HRT and GDx, both are very short tests (at most a minute or two) in which the patient simply stares at an aiming spot and the machine does the rest…completely "non-invasive and painless" (it’s used to take pictures of the optic nerve and to have a computer analyze these pictures.  It also allows for storage of the photos and for later comparisons).  Most docs don’t have both, as they are very expensive machines (I have an HRT and find it very useful).  Can’t tell you which one is "more effective"…both use different type of technology to examine the optic nerve, but both are very reliable technology. Hope that helps. Rick Cohn, MD Glaucoma Specialist Winter Park, FL

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Hello, I have a pressure of 20 in both eyes and I am short-sighted,  so my doctor suggested a computerized visual field test. I had the test, but I was so anxious that I will have to try it again in a couple of months. Actually I don’t know whether I will be able to stay calm next time, so I was thinking of having a different kind of exam to test whether I have glaucoma. I have heard about GDX and HRT : do you know which one is more effective? Are both exams non-invasive and painless? Thank you very much for your help Alberto

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Dr. Cohn and Dr. Schmidt, thank you very much for your reply Alberto

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There is no test less painful or invasive than a visual field test.  Albeit the most boring, its the most effective and the easist.  Just have a play with the device before the testing commenses (they all have demo modes in them) and remember that every response, be it positive or negative, is rechecked in some sense of the word…you can’t make a major error unless you fail to maintain gaze at the target.  Also remember that most VF machines can be paused by holding your finger down on the button…gives you breathing space if you’re losing concentration. Cheers Mark the Optometrist Sydney, Australia "Alberto" <sp…@nothx.com> wrote in message

news:9tRad.37469$H11.1257238@twister1.libero.it… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hello, > I have a pressure of 20 in both eyes and I am short-sighted,  so my doctor > suggested a computerized visual field test. I had the test, but I was so > anxious that I will have to try it again in a couple of months. Actually I > don’t know whether I will be able to stay calm next time, so I was thinking > of having a different kind of exam to test whether I have glaucoma. I have > heard about GDX and HRT : do you know which one is more effective? Are both > exams non-invasive and painless? > Thank you very much for your help > Alberto

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart rotfl I was told i could have Viagra or Alpostradil (sp?) if i wanted. Since i am not in a relationship i declined. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est

Stuff that Al … get some and flog it to poorly equipped friends and family:P Failing that lace your coffee with the stuff and go and attempt to masturbate furiously with whatever appendage you still have good motor control of If both your hands stop working are you going to get the "Prince mod" done? That’s where they take out a couple of vertebrae so you can blow yourself Failing that .. stick some in your eyes and you’ll look well ‘ard I’ll get me coat. Patrick

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart rotfl I was told i could have Viagra or Alpostradil (sp?) if i wanted. Since i am not in a relationship i declined. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Stuff that Al … get some and flog it to poorly equipped friends and family:P Failing that lace your coffee with the stuff and go and attempt to masturbate furiously with whatever appendage you still have good motor control of If both your hands stop working are you going to get the "Prince mod" done? That’s where they take out a couple of vertebrae so you can blow yourself Failing that .. stick some in your eyes and you’ll look well ‘ard I’ll get me coat.

I’m deaf, so i didn’t hear those comments. Oh, dear me, news posts get read not heard! i must be brain-damaged by all that low-carbing (sarcastic comment, in case you didn’t notice) i am still paying for all of those years of poor control. Serves me right, no complaints. i am usually too busy smiling to have time for moaning. BE WARNED, TYPE 1s. Get OFF the premix, get OFF the Insulatard. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Patrick

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hey….. i see lots of good in your bad news list!! the A1c is probably in the lab reference range for ‘normal’ did you check for that??

European Diabetes Policy Group says HbA1c should be 6.2 or less. Besides, my last one was 5.7, and the one before that was 5.95, so i have gone in the wrong direction. HDL looks great

EDPG again says HDL is ok, but i have had 1.7 before (but only on beef insulin and your excellent list of veg– now there is no surprise) LDL…… well…. i hear you weight loss….. simply fantabulous!!!!! keep on keeping on!!!

No, Kate, I am 5′10, so 54.7 kilos is dangerous. My doc, my dsn, and most importantly, me, are agreed that 60 kilos is the minimum target. (64 is the maximum) why the liver panel test need? are you taking a statin med??

i have 1800 cals per day, and use about 1650, so weight ought to go up. Skin is slightly yellow, and though i forget the bilirubin number, it was well out of range. No statins. and the lipodystrophy……. move the shot at least 1 inch from the last shot to ensure it’s a month before you return to that site… for less lipodystrophy…….

Yeah, i hear you, and i ought to know better. Complacency strikes again! i would probably be indifferent to all of this, but i don’t think i care enough lol take care,

Thank you, i shall certainly do that — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – kate Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart rotfl I was told i could have Viagra or Alpostradil (sp?) if i wanted. Since i am not in a relationship i declined. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart Alan, Bet the weight loss and the hyperthyroidism is related, so when you sort out the thyroid, the weight should ease up too.

i think you may well be right. If i heard Maggie B (my dsn) aright, the weight loss is the main reason she suspects hyperthyroidism. Also slight hyperactivity, and dry skin, but hair is fine. Why did they want a liver function – do they suspect anything going on, or is it just that time of year?

They do suspect a problem — see my post to Kate, but also autumn is when they do all the lot for me. i had a flu jab on Saturday morning, podiatry emergency follow-up today, six-monthly podiatry in a couple of weeks, annual lung function in six weeks, etc. I also have an appointment with the diabetes nutritionist again — two-and-a-half years since i saw her. It will make a change for her, putting somebody’s weight UP, instead of down. On Wednesday in two days i got to see the phlebotomist again. They have all got to know me by first name now!! And I do like the good news! : )

Yeah, it breaks the monotony doesn’t it — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nicky.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart

Alan, Bet the weight loss and the hyperthyroidism is related, so when you sort out the thyroid, the weight should ease up too. Why did they want a liver function – do they suspect anything going on, or is it just that time of year? And I do like the good news! : ) Nicky. — HgBA1C 10.5/6.4/<6  Weight 95/82/72 1g Metformin, 75mg Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004

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hey….. i see lots of good in your bad news list!! the A1c is probably in the lab reference range for ‘normal’ did you check for that?? HDL looks great LDL…… well…. i hear you weight loss….. simply fantabulous!!!!! keep on keeping on!!! why the liver panel test need? are you taking a statin med?? and the lipodystrophy……. move the shot at least 1 inch from the last shot to ensure it’s a month before you return to that site… for less lipodystrophy……. take care, kate — Join us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org — /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart rotfl I was told i could have Viagra or Alpostradil (sp?) if i wanted. Since i am not in a relationship i declined. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hey….. i see lots of good in your bad news list!! the A1c is probably in the lab reference range for ‘normal’ did you check for that?? HDL looks great LDL…… well…. i hear you weight loss….. simply fantabulous!!!!! keep on keeping on!!! why the liver panel test need? are you taking a statin med?? and the lipodystrophy……. move the shot at least 1 inch from the last shot to ensure it’s a month before you return to that site… for less lipodystrophy……. take care, kate —

Hi Alan I’m with Kate there on the good news, but I do also sympathise with the other bits. But the attitude shows in your comment to Patrick: "i am still paying for all of those years of poor control. Serves me right, no complaints. i am usually too busy smiling to have time for moaning." Keep smiling mate, even if sometimes it’s difficult to do so with gritted teeth. Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email. — Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.

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– — Fester T1 – 28u Lantus and as much Novorapid as the meter says. Dx 1993, Hba1c 6.1%. Cholesterol 3.9

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart rotfl I was told i could have Viagra or Alpostradil (sp?) if i wanted. Since i am not in a relationship i declined. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Stuff that Al … get some and flog it to poorly equipped friends and family:P Failing that lace your coffee with the stuff and go and attempt to masturbate furiously with whatever appendage you still have good motor control of If both your hands stop working are you going to get the "Prince mod" done? That’s where they take out a couple of vertebrae so you can blow yourself Failing that .. stick some in your eyes and you’ll look well ‘ard I’ll get me coat. I’m deaf, so i didn’t hear those comments. Oh, dear me, news posts get read not heard! i must be brain-damaged by all that low-carbing (sarcastic comment, in case you didn’t notice) i am still paying for all of those years of poor control. Serves me right, no complaints. i am usually too busy smiling to have time for moaning. BE WARNED, TYPE 1s. Get OFF the premix, get OFF the Insulatard. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Patrick

hehe .. yes i noticed, i’m not sure i believe all that twaddle about low carb either …   then again we’re in charge of our diabetes not them so it matters not.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart rotfl I was told i could have Viagra or Alpostradil (sp?) if i wanted. Since i am not in a relationship i declined. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Stuff that Al … get some and flog it to poorly equipped friends and family:P Failing that lace your coffee with the stuff and go and attempt to masturbate furiously with whatever appendage you still have good motor control of If both your hands stop working are you going to get the "Prince mod" done? That’s where they take out a couple of vertebrae so you can blow yourself Failing that .. stick some in your eyes and you’ll look well ‘ard I’ll get me coat. I’m deaf, so i didn’t hear those comments. Oh, dear me, news posts get read not heard! i must be brain-damaged by all that low-carbing (sarcastic comment, in case you didn’t notice) i am still paying for all of those years of poor control. Serves me right, no complaints. i am usually too busy smiling to have time for moaning. BE WARNED, TYPE 1s. Get OFF the premix, get OFF the Insulatard. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Patrick hehe .. yes i noticed, i’m not sure i believe all that twaddle about low carb either …   then again we’re in charge of our diabetes not them so it matters not.

A long time ago, at least 20 months, i posted an URL saying, with scientific evidence, that more than 60 gms of carb per meal would eventually cause brain damage. Probably take some finding on groups.google, but it is there. i remember Jackie mum of Sasha commenting. As for ADA commenting, the US has a population with 60% of people obese! So i for one will discount most of their dietary advice —  i go to the University of South Australia website for the more sensible bit. No doubt the upsidedown Alan will feel flattered by that. He gets good results by standing on his head in comparison to us lot lol — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est

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– — Fester T1 – 28u Lantus and as much Novorapid as the meter says. Dx 1993, Hba1c 6.1%. Cholesterol 3.9

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart rotfl I was told i could have Viagra or Alpostradil (sp?) if i wanted. Since i am not in a relationship i declined. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Stuff that Al … get some and flog it to poorly equipped friends and family:P Failing that lace your coffee with the stuff and go and attempt to masturbate furiously with whatever appendage you still have good motor control of If both your hands stop working are you going to get the "Prince mod" done? That’s where they take out a couple of vertebrae so you can blow yourself Failing that .. stick some in your eyes and you’ll look well ‘ard I’ll get me coat. I’m deaf, so i didn’t hear those comments. Oh, dear me, news posts get read not heard! i must be brain-damaged by all that low-carbing (sarcastic comment, in case you didn’t notice) i am still paying for all of those years of poor control. Serves me right, no complaints. i am usually too busy smiling to have time for moaning. BE WARNED, TYPE 1s. Get OFF the premix, get OFF the Insulatard. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Patrick hehe .. yes i noticed, i’m not sure i believe all that twaddle about low carb either …   then again we’re in charge of our diabetes not them so it matters not. A long time ago, at least 20 months, i posted an URL saying, with scientific evidence, that more than 60 gms of carb per meal would eventually cause brain damage. Probably take some finding on groups.google, but it is there. i remember Jackie mum of Sasha commenting. As for ADA commenting, the US has a population with 60% of people obese! So i for one will discount most of their dietary advice —  i go to the University of South Australia website for the more sensible bit. No doubt the upsidedown Alan will feel flattered by that. He gets good results by standing on his head in comparison to us lot lol — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est

I suspect my average carb intake per meal is a lot less than 60g .. in fact i know it is, i think it’s about 40 for breakfast .. about 60 for lunch and about 45 for tea. Only if i’m doing something physically exerting do i eat more but i tend to snack as i’m working rather than pigging out in preparation as the BG spikes are just too high otherwise. I’ve only just got in from work and am off to bed …. if i don’t go to bed i’ll fall asleep right here

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart rotfl I was told i could have Viagra or Alpostradil (sp?) if i wanted. Since i am not in a relationship i declined. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Stuff that Al … get some and flog it to poorly equipped friends and family:P Failing that lace your coffee with the stuff and go and attempt to masturbate furiously with whatever appendage you still have good motor control of If both your hands stop working are you going to get the "Prince mod" done? That’s where they take out a couple of vertebrae so you can blow yourself Failing that .. stick some in your eyes and you’ll look well ‘ard I’ll get me coat. I’m deaf, so i didn’t hear those comments. Oh, dear me, news posts get read not heard! i must be brain-damaged by all that low-carbing (sarcastic comment, in case you didn’t notice) i am still paying for all of those years of poor control. Serves me right, no complaints. i am usually too busy smiling to have time for moaning. BE WARNED, TYPE 1s. Get OFF the premix, get OFF the Insulatard. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Patrick hehe .. yes i noticed, i’m not sure i believe all that twaddle about low carb either …   then again we’re in charge of our diabetes not them so it matters not. A long time ago, at least 20 months, i posted an URL saying, with scientific evidence, that more than 60 gms of carb per meal would eventually cause brain damage. Probably take some finding on groups.google, but it is there. i remember Jackie mum of Sasha commenting. As for ADA commenting, the US has a population with 60% of people obese! So i for one will discount most of their dietary advice —  i go to the University of South Australia website for the more sensible bit. No doubt the upsidedown Alan will feel flattered by that. He gets good results by standing on his head in comparison to us lot lol — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est

So the diets work better if we eat while we stand on our heads? DaveT

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart rotfl I was told i could have Viagra or Alpostradil (sp?) if i wanted. Since i am not in a relationship i declined. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Stuff that Al … get some and flog it to poorly equipped friends and family:P Failing that lace your coffee with the stuff and go and attempt to masturbate furiously with whatever appendage you still have good motor control of If both your hands stop working are you going to get the "Prince mod" done? That’s where they take out a couple of vertebrae so you can blow yourself Failing that .. stick some in your eyes and you’ll look well ‘ard I’ll get me coat. I’m deaf, so i didn’t hear those comments. Oh, dear me, news posts get read not heard! i must be brain-damaged by all that low-carbing (sarcastic comment, in case you didn’t notice) i am still paying for all of those years of poor control. Serves me right, no complaints. i am usually too busy smiling to have time for moaning. BE WARNED, TYPE 1s. Get OFF the premix, get OFF the Insulatard. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Patrick hehe .. yes i noticed, i’m not sure i believe all that twaddle about low carb either …   then again we’re in charge of our diabetes not them so it matters not. A long time ago, at least 20 months, i posted an URL saying, with scientific evidence, that more than 60 gms of carb per meal would eventually cause brain damage. Probably take some finding on groups.google, but it is there. i remember Jackie mum of Sasha commenting. As for ADA commenting, the US has a population with 60% of people obese! So i for one will discount most of their dietary advice —  i go to the University of South Australia website for the more sensible bit. No doubt the upsidedown Alan will feel flattered by that. He gets good results by standing on his head in comparison to us lot lol — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est So the diets work better if we eat while we stand on our heads? DaveT

Must be so, i think. Jenny ought to put that in her books and website. i don’t think a glass of Aussie red wine would do too well though rotfl — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est

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i go to the University of South Australia website for the more sensible bit.

PS Web-site? Cheers, Alan —

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No doubt the upsidedown Alan will feel flattered by that. He gets good results by standing on his head in comparison to us lot lol — Alan

The trick is to do it when you’re eating carbs and they all fall out of your mouth. Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email. — Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart rotfl I was told i could have Viagra or Alpostradil (sp?) if i wanted. Since i am not in a relationship i declined. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Stuff that Al … get some and flog it to poorly equipped friends and family:P Failing that lace your coffee with the stuff and go and attempt to masturbate furiously with whatever appendage you still have good motor control of If both your hands stop working are you going to get the "Prince mod" done? That’s where they take out a couple of vertebrae so you can blow yourself Failing that .. stick some in your eyes and you’ll look well ‘ard I’ll get me coat. I’m deaf, so i didn’t hear those comments. Oh, dear me, news posts get read not heard! i must be brain-damaged by all that low-carbing (sarcastic comment, in case you didn’t notice) i am still paying for all of those years of poor control. Serves me right, no complaints. i am usually too busy smiling to have time for moaning. BE WARNED, TYPE 1s. Get OFF the premix, get OFF the Insulatard. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Patrick hehe .. yes i noticed, i’m not sure i believe all that twaddle about low carb either …   then again we’re in charge of our diabetes not them so it matters not. A long time ago, at least 20 months, i posted an URL saying, with scientific evidence, that more than 60 gms of carb per meal would eventually cause brain damage. Probably take some finding on groups.google, but it is there. i remember Jackie mum of Sasha commenting. As for ADA commenting, the US has a population with 60% of people obese! So i for one will discount most of their dietary advice —  i go to the University of South Australia website for the more sensible bit. No doubt the upsidedown Alan will feel flattered by that. He gets good results by standing on his head in comparison to us lot lol — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est So the diets work better if we eat while we stand on our heads? DaveT Must be so, i think. Jenny ought to put that in her books and website. i don’t think a glass of Aussie red wine would do too well though rotfl — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est

So to summarise…. young(ish) free and single, slight wear and tear but with a scrip for viagra and an interest in contortionism…. Ladies, form an orderly queue. VBH T2/UK/A1c 5.8/ 1000Met/Dx Oct-03

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Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart rotfl I was told i could have Viagra or Alpostradil (sp?) if i wanted. Since i am not in a relationship i declined. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart Alan, Bet the weight loss and the hyperthyroidism is related, so when you sort out the thyroid, the weight should ease up too. i think you may well be right. If i heard Maggie B (my dsn) aright, the weight loss is the main reason she suspects hyperthyroidism. Also slight hyperactivity, and dry skin, but hair is fine. Why did they want a liver function – do they suspect anything going on, or is it just that time of year? They do suspect a problem — see my post to Kate, but also autumn is when they do all the lot for me. i had a flu jab on Saturday morning, podiatry emergency follow-up today, six-monthly podiatry in a couple of weeks, annual lung function in six weeks, etc. I also have an appointment with the diabetes nutritionist again — two-and-a-half years since i saw her. It will make a change for her, putting somebody’s weight UP, instead of down. On Wednesday in two days i got to see the phlebotomist again. They have all got to know me by first name now!! And I do like the good news! : ) Yeah, it breaks the monotony doesn’t it — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Nicky.

Well hopefully checking the thyroid will take care of half the bads and your principal numbers are not that bad so they may have been affected by that as well.  If it’s down to complacency instead I am sure you can take care of that for next time. So at least you get to be poked around by various nurses and other female medics for a while. You never know, it might even take care of the lack of relationship bit.   Just make sure she can cook and fatten you up a bit. And if all else fails at least you have the advantage of being able to turn off the herring aids for any snippets of bad news.  There’s times when that sounds like an attractive option to me. VBH T2/UK/A1c 5.8/ 1000Met/Dx Oct-03

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i go to the University of South Australia website for the more sensible bit. PS Web-site?

http://www.unisa.edu.au/ Lots of good stuff, not only nutrition and diabetes. Ricky Ponting and the Waugh twins are the main reason i like Aussies — and no, cricket is not a sport, nor a game, it is not even a way of life. It is the sole reason for life!! I have two Aussie aunts as well, Annalise in Brisbane, Annabel in Melbourne. Up Australia!! (especially in next year’s Ashes series) lol — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cheers, Alan

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.unisa.edu.au/ Lots of good stuff, not only nutrition and diabetes. Ricky Ponting and the Waugh twins are the main reason i like Aussies — and no, cricket is not a sport, nor a game, it is not even a way of life. It is the sole reason for life!! I have two Aussie aunts as well, Annalise in Brisbane, Annabel in Melbourne. Up Australia!! (especially in next year’s Ashes series) lol — Alan Thx Al To be honest, I never actually played the game (well, not since Primary School); but I developed an interest in the sixties. I don’t think I missed a Boxing Day in the MCG Southern Stand from ‘69 until the late 70s. Them was the days, Lillee, Thommo, Marsh, Borecott (think about it), Cowdrey, Snow, Brierley and the first helmet…nostalgia aint what it used to be… My cricket memories start with Laker’s 19 wicket haul, and Cowdrey and May putting up a stand of over 400 in the West Indies. Borecott and Edrich, Kapil Dev, Rodney Marsh, Graeme Pollok, Inzamam, cor, wot a list to make the mouth water! And it is only a short list. Shame no other sport or game is worth bothering with. So, if you’re watching on Boxing Day (I haven’t even checked to see who we’re going to be defeating:-) look for the reflection from my polished pate, just over the bowler’s arm in the Southern Stand. What are the names of your Aunts in England? Annaconda? Annaversary? Doris, Dorothy, Edna, and dead the others. When you reach my age all of them uncles and aunts start popping off at a great rate.

Hi Alan I’ll pack it in after this one, we’re wandering just a wee bit OT:-) I think the most boring day I had should have been one of the best. Us bowling, your lot batting (Cowdrey back from retirement IIRC) – but because I got there late I had to watch from square leg. So you’d see Lillee run in from over near the fence on the left, the arm go over, the batsman shuffle and duck, then Marsh put his gloves above his head from somewhere over near the fence on your right. The bloody ball went so fast you never saw it unless Cowdrey stuck his bat straight above his head and deflected it for four to square leg – as he did a couple of times:-) Then, after six of those they’d swap and Thommo would come in from the right and do the same thing only even faster. You wondered why Marsh stayed a little chubby when he had to walk so far between overs. I made sure I was early and over the bowlers arm when the Windies came out. Nearly 80000 at the MCG; you couldn’t have fitted another soul in – capacity was theoretically over 100,000  but eskies also take up room:-) When Borecott came on at the MCG, the yobbos in Bay 13 were far more entertaining. Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email. — Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.

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So to summarise…. young(ish) free and single, slight wear and tear but with a scrip for viagra and an interest in contortionism….

You forgot the "can cook" – absolute babe magnet : ) Nicky. — HgBA1C 10.5/6.4/<6  Weight 95/82/72 1g Metformin, 75mg Thyroxine T2 DX 05/2004

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://www.unisa.edu.au/ Lots of good stuff, not only nutrition and diabetes. Ricky Ponting and the Waugh twins are the main reason i like Aussies — and no, cricket is not a sport, nor a game, it is not even a way of life. It is the sole reason for life!! I have two Aussie aunts as well, Annalise in Brisbane, Annabel in Melbourne. Up Australia!! (especially in next year’s Ashes series) lol — Alan Thx Al To be honest, I never actually played the game (well, not since Primary School); but I developed an interest in the sixties. I don’t think I missed a Boxing Day in the MCG Southern Stand from ‘69 until the late 70s. Them was the days, Lillee, Thommo, Marsh, Borecott (think about it), Cowdrey, Snow, Brierley and the first helmet…nostalgia aint what it used to be…

My cricket memories start with Laker’s 19 wicket haul, and Cowdrey and May putting up a stand of over 400 in the West Indies. Borecott and Edrich, Kapil Dev, Rodney Marsh, Graeme Pollok, Inzamam, cor, wot a list to make the mouth water! And it is only a short list. Shame no other sport or game is worth bothering with. So, if you’re watching on Boxing Day (I haven’t even checked to see who we’re going to be defeating:-) look for the reflection from my polished pate, just over the bowler’s arm in the Southern Stand. What are the names of your Aunts in England? Annaconda? Annaversary?

Doris, Dorothy, Edna, and dead the others. When you reach my age all of them uncles and aunts start popping off at a great rate. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email.

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http://www.unisa.edu.au/ Lots of good stuff, not only nutrition and diabetes. Ricky Ponting and the Waugh twins are the main reason i like Aussies — and no, cricket is not a sport, nor a game, it is not even a way of life. It is the sole reason for life!! I have two Aussie aunts as well, Annalise in Brisbane, Annabel in Melbourne. Up Australia!! (especially in next year’s Ashes series) lol — Alan

Thx Al To be honest, I never actually played the game (well, not since Primary School); but I developed an interest in the sixties. I don’t think I missed a Boxing Day in the MCG Southern Stand from ‘69 until the late 70s. Them was the days, Lillee, Thommo, Marsh, Borecott (think about it), Cowdrey, Snow, Brierley and the first helmet…nostalgia aint what it used to be…   So, if you’re watching on Boxing Day (I haven’t even checked to see who we’re going to be defeating:-) look for the reflection from my polished pate, just over the bowler’s arm in the Southern Stand. What are the names of your Aunts in England? Annaconda? Annaversary? Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs to email. — Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart Alan, Bet the weight loss and the hyperthyroidism is related, so when you sort out the thyroid, the weight should ease up too. i think you may well be right. If i heard Maggie B (my dsn) aright, the weight loss is the main reason she suspects hyperthyroidism. Also slight hyperactivity, and dry skin, but hair is fine. Why did they want a liver function – do they suspect anything going on, or is it just that time of year? They do suspect a problem — see my post to Kate, but also autumn is when they do all the lot for me. i had a flu jab on Saturday morning, podiatry emergency follow-up today, six-monthly podiatry in a couple of weeks, annual lung function in six weeks, etc. I also have an appointment with the diabetes nutritionist again — two-and-a-half years since i saw her. It will make a change for her, putting somebody’s weight UP, instead of down. On Wednesday in two days i got to see the phlebotomist again. They have all got to know me by first name now!! And I do like the good news! : ) Yeah, it breaks the monotony doesn’t it — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Nicky. Well hopefully checking the thyroid will take care of half the bads and your principal numbers are not that bad so they may have been affected by that as well.  If it’s down to complacency instead I am sure you can take care of that for next time.

Maggie B suggested upping the midday bolus by 2 units, or alternatively 1 unit and do it in my upper arm. She also asked if i wanted to try Hypurin Porcine Neutral — i managed a polite answer, so i must be getting good So at least you get to be poked around by various nurses and other female medics for a while.

For some reason, podiatrists are always female. Maybe they have a feetish? I’ll get me coat! — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You never know, it might even take care of the lack of relationship   bit. Just make sure she can cook and fatten you up a bit. And if all else fails at least you have the advantage of being able to turn off the herring aids for any snippets of bad news.  There’s times when that sounds like an attractive option to me. VBH T2/UK/A1c 5.8/ 1000Met/Dx Oct-03

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Bad News HbA1c 6.5 HDL   1.4 LDL   1.3 Weight 54.7 kilos (down from 63 in only six months!!) Creatine clearance 63 (Lab Normal is 60 to 100) Postural Hypotension makes its first appearance Hyperthyroidism (NOT hypOthyroidism) is suspected Liver Function Test is required Neuropathy has advanced in my feet from 70% to 85% Lipodystrophy in my tum, so I am advised to widen the area of injections, and bolus in my upper arms Muscle wasting in my right thigh has remained the same Neuroarthropathy in my right knee has remained the same Deafness is worse, so two hearing aids now required, where it was one Good news! Triglyceride 0.6 Neuritis in my fingers has completely gone. Retinopathy is still zero. Glaucoma?? Not on your Nellie lol Floaters = nil So, with my sight unimpaired, i can at least watch the rest of me fall apart rotfl I was told i could have Viagra or Alpostradil (sp?) if i wanted. Since i am not in a relationship i declined. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Stuff that Al … get some and flog it to poorly equipped friends and family:P Failing that lace your coffee with the stuff and go and attempt to masturbate furiously with whatever appendage you still have good motor control of If both your hands stop working are you going to get the "Prince mod" done? That’s where they take out a couple of vertebrae so you can blow yourself Failing that .. stick some in your eyes and you’ll look well ‘ard I’ll get me coat. I’m deaf, so i didn’t hear those comments. Oh, dear me, news posts get read not heard! i must be brain-damaged by all that low-carbing (sarcastic comment, in case you didn’t notice) i am still paying for all of those years of poor control. Serves me right, no complaints. i am usually too busy smiling to have time for moaning. BE WARNED, TYPE 1s. Get OFF the premix, get OFF the Insulatard. — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est Patrick hehe .. yes i noticed, i’m not sure i believe all that twaddle about low carb either …   then again we’re in charge of our diabetes not them so it matters not. A long time ago, at least 20 months, i posted an URL saying, with scientific evidence, that more than 60 gms of carb per meal would eventually cause brain damage. Probably take some finding on groups.google, but it is there. i remember Jackie mum of Sasha commenting. As for ADA commenting, the US has a population with 60% of people obese! So i for one will discount most of their dietary advice — i go to the University of South Australia website for the more sensible bit. No doubt the upsidedown Alan will feel flattered by that. He gets good results by standing on his head in comparison to us lot lol — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est So the diets work better if we eat while we stand on our heads? DaveT Must be so, i think. Jenny ought to put that in her books and website. i don’t think a glass of Aussie red wine would do too well though rotfl — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est So to summarise…. young(ish) free and single, slight wear and tear but with a scrip for viagra and an interest in contortionism….

*youngish*?? Don’t I just wish! — Alan de gustibus non disputandum est – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ladies, form an orderly queue. VBH T2/UK/A1c 5.8/ 1000Met/Dx Oct-03

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Jackie, I take Zyrtec (prescription) year-round, daily, for allergies. I prefer it because it works better than some similar medications for skin allergies as well as respiratory.  However, when the pollen is really really bad, as it is right now, sometimes only oral Benadryl or Actifed pills will do the trick for me. And yes, those make you sleepy.   The Zyrtec doesn’t make me sleepy at all. (It’s similar to Claritin.) I also use a prescription steroid nasal spray, Rhinocort.  It keeps me pretty well dried up in the sinuses, but I still get headaches and red eyes from allergies. Hope you find something to make you feel better! xxoo Anne — The charter is available at: