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NormC <no…@socal.nospam.com> wrote: > > I don’t know about being born with astigmatism. I do know that I have > > had it for quite a while though it was mild. It got worse a few years > > ago. I suspect that the increased blood pressure from my apnea was was > > also causing increased interoccular pressure which distorted the shape > > of the eye. The CPAP use brought down the blood pressure and > > interoccular pressure and allowed my eye shape to return to a shape more > > like I had before, lessening the astigmatism. > > Ross Bernheim > So does this mean you were diagnosed with glucoma?

No, but they check for it each time I get an eye exam. The interoccular pressure is evidently something that they feel has a high correlation to certain eye problems so they look out for it so it can be controlled if it gets too high. Ross Bernheim

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In article <1fnsh8s.8obrpl1yyvghsN%ross…@mindspring.com>, ross…@mindspring.com (Ross Bernheim) wrote: > NormC <no…@socal.nospam.com> wrote: > > So does this mean you were diagnosed with glucoma? > No, but they check for it each time I get an eye exam. The interoccular > pressure is evidently something that they feel has a high correlation to > certain eye problems so they look out for it so it can be controlled if > it gets too high.

In the case of intraocular pressure and glaucoma, it’s more than correlation. Reduced blood flow as a result of high intraocular pressure is the ultimate cause of the deterioration. http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/glaucoma.htm http://www.epsa.de/english/augeninnendruck.htm Basically, the pressure isn’t *supposed* to be higher and if it is, the damage known as glaucoma is the eventual result. As someone with a parent with glaucoma, I get more than the puff test (which is not all that reliable, but it’s a good first approximation). I’ve never had a puff test, though I did once leave a hole in the doc’s drywall when he tried to administer one. :) Instead, I get the full-contact test, which really isn’t nearly as awful as it sounds. Either way, it’s a good thing to do annually. — _Deirdre                                             http://deirdre.net "Ideally pacing should look like the stock market for the year 1999, up and up and up, but with lots of little dips downwards…."                                      – Wen Spencer on plotting a novel

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I always thought my hair loss was due to "flying critters" building a new landing field (runway) on my head. With each hair that left, I could have swore that I heard them yell "Timber!!!" Best— Ron  (a mind is a terrible thing)   ;-) ) "Lee Babcock" <leebabc…@pathcom.com> wrote in message

news:3E04AD9E.FF57DCA2@pathcom.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Ross Bernheim wrote: > > Just got back from the yearly appointment with the eye doctor. I was not > > on CPAP last year, so I was interested to see if there were going to be > > any changes. > > First off the interoccular pressure that they measure with that annoying > > puff of air is down by over 20 percent! Secondly my astigmatism has > > improved some. > > Note that this is most definitely related to my apnea treatment with the > > CPAP. My blood pressure dropped when I went on CPAP so that I was able > > to go off the blood pressure medications after a few months, despite > > putting on a few pounds. > > And the final present for the season is that from almost completely bald > > on top, (you could count the hairs on your fingers with a few fingers > > left over), I now have a noticible ammount of hair there. Not a full > > head of hair yet, but most assuradly a noticable increase. > > My CPAP is my good buddy! > > Ross Bernheim > Ross……. but what about your prescription for your glasses?   Has it > changed and if so, for better or worse. > Are you sure about the hair on top?  Maybe with the new prescrition > glasses, you won’t see it anymore! <g> > And, what is wrong with having an interactive, self powered, highly > accurate precipitation sensor on top of your head? <g> > Regards > Lee in Toronto > —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– > http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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In article <3E104C5A.6060…@verizon.net>, Judy Simon <hurricane.j…@verizon.net> wrote: > Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote: > > In the case of intraocular pressure and glaucoma, it’s more than > > correlation. Reduced blood flow as a result of high intraocular pressure > > is the ultimate cause of the deterioration. > True, but high IOP is only a risk factor; most people with high IOP do > NOT go on to develop glaucoma, which involves visual field loss and > cupping of the ocular disc.

It’s more than a risk factor, but it’s controllable with meds. For all those people who use steroid nasal sprays a lot, there is some correlation between that and glaucoma. — _Deirdre                                             http://deirdre.net "Ideally pacing should look like the stock market for the year 1999, up and up and up, but with lots of little dips downwards…."                                      – Wen Spencer on plotting a novel

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote: > In article <1fnsh8s.8obrpl1yyvghsN%ross…@mindspring.com>, > ross…@mindspring.com (Ross Bernheim) wrote: >>NormC <no…@socal.nospam.com> wrote: >>>So does this mean you were diagnosed with glucoma? >>No, but they check for it each time I get an eye exam. The interoccular >>pressure is evidently something that they feel has a high correlation to >>certain eye problems so they look out for it so it can be controlled if >>it gets too high. > In the case of intraocular pressure and glaucoma, it’s more than > correlation. Reduced blood flow as a result of high intraocular pressure > is the ultimate cause of the deterioration.

True, but high IOP is only a risk factor; most people with high IOP do NOT go on to develop glaucoma, which involves visual field loss and cupping of the ocular disc. Judy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> http://www.allaboutvision.com/conditions/glaucoma.htm > http://www.epsa.de/english/augeninnendruck.htm > Basically, the pressure isn’t *supposed* to be higher and if it is, the > damage known as glaucoma is the eventual result. > As someone with a parent with glaucoma, I get more than the puff test > (which is not all that reliable, but it’s a good first approximation). > I’ve never had a puff test, though I did once leave a hole in the doc’s > drywall when he tried to administer one. :) > Instead, I get the full-contact test, which really isn’t nearly as awful > as it sounds. > Either way, it’s a good thing to do annually.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Ross Bernheim wrote: > NormC <no…@socal.nospam.com> wrote: > > This puzzles me.  I have severe astigmatism.  I was born with it. > > It was my understanding that anyone who has it… was born with it.  Someone, > > please tell me how CPAP could effect the physical structure of the eye. > I don’t know about being born with astigmatism. I do know that I have > had it for quite a while though it was mild. It got worse a few years > ago. I suspect that the increased blood pressure from my apnea was was > also causing increased interoccular pressure which distorted the shape > of the eye. The CPAP use brought down the blood pressure and > interoccular pressure and allowed my eye shape to return to a shape more > like I had before, lessening the astigmatism. > Ross Bernheim

So does this mean you were diagnosed with glucoma? — Sleep well/eat well/be well Norm To email replace nospam with rr

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In article <3E0801AD.D6FB6…@socal.nospam.com>, NormC <no…@socal.nospam.com> wrote: > Ross Bernheim wrote: > > I don’t know about being born with astigmatism. I do know that I have > > had it for quite a while though it was mild. It got worse a few years > > ago. I suspect that the increased blood pressure from my apnea was was > > also causing increased interoccular pressure which distorted the shape > > of the eye. The CPAP use brought down the blood pressure and > > interoccular pressure and allowed my eye shape to return to a shape more > > like I had before, lessening the astigmatism. > > Ross Bernheim > So does this mean you were diagnosed with glucoma?

Doesn’t sound like it. My dad is partly convinced that his OSA may have helped start his glaucoma, though glaucoma was detected probably 10 years before OSA. I don’t know enough about glaucoma to really understand it well. Personally, though there’s been no studies on it[1], I could see a connection between OSA and diabetic retinopathy.[2] http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992472 00:01

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