Glaucoma & Migraine
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excuse me, but retina could be have many problems with a non diagnostied or not threated glaucoma… the important is having a good opthalmologist. regard to everybody piero (new of here.. and sorry for not have introduced myself before)
That is quite true; my point was simply that you don’t need to see a retina specialist if the only problem is glaucoma; any ophthalmologist.should be able to manage that.
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piero (new of here.. and sorry for not have introduced myself before)
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excuse me, but retina could be have many problems with a non diagnostied or not threated glaucoma… the important is having a good opthalmologist. regard to everybody piero (new of here.. and sorry for not have introduced myself before)
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It’s interesting to wonder what connections there may be between the two. I know that symptoms of migraine can be mistaken for eye problems, or the other way around, which is why it’s so important to have any new symptoms checked out carefully, as many of you have mentioned! I’ve written about some eye problems here, if any of it sheds any light: http://www.relieve-migraine-headache.com/eye-migraines.html James — www.relieve-migraine-headache.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey, my maternal bloodline has a history of glaucoma. I watched my great-grandmother go blind. I watched my grandmother start to go blind. I haven’t had much contact with my mother for over a decade. My paternal bloodline brings migraine into my genes. I have suffered for over 20 years, although not as much as many of you. I’m 33, and the last 5 years have lead to me being less able to drive on the highway because of migraine from eye strain. On top of this, I have never had depth perception. The last couple years have lead to me not being able to drive at night. My eye doc says my occular pressure is at the high end of normal, and night vision troubles are common in that case, especailly with a lifetime of migraine. Are there any other migraineurs out there suffering occular hypertension? If so, are you having trouble driving at night, or for long periods on the highway? I’m interested in finding others in my situation to help understand the stats of my future. Also, if you have migraine, you should know that it seems to effect the progression of glaucoma. Get your eyes checked regularly, aside from all the other specialists. An optomitrist is quite qualifed to diagnose glaucoma suspects/occular hypertensives, and they don’t cost near the price of neurologists. Any comments? Regards, Heather
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No connection that I’m aware of. Glaucoma is a sneaky bastard that robs your vision in degrees. By the time that you *know* something is wrong, it too late. The damage is done. If you’re at risk, you need to be proactive about detection and treatment.
Well, my point illustrates what you are saying. So many glaucoma victims I know had migraine for many years. Trouble is, none of them had their vision checked out because they just thought migraine was the source of their vision trouble. If you have migraine, it is very important to have your eyes checked out regularly because migraineurs tend to write off any vision trouble to migraine.
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No connection that I’m aware of. Glaucoma is a sneaky bastard that robs your vision in degrees. By the time that you *know* something is wrong, it too late. The damage is done. If you’re at risk, you need to be proactive about detection and treatment. Erik – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s interesting to wonder what connections there may be between the two. I know that symptoms of migraine can be mistaken for eye problems, or the other way around, which is why it’s so important to have any new symptoms checked out carefully, as many of you have mentioned! I’ve written about some eye problems here, if any of it sheds any light: http://www.relieve-migraine-headache.com/eye-migraines.html James
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True. Although they seem to be split into cornea and retina specialists. Even with glaucoma you want to get a picture of your retina taken so that they have a baseline to note any changes. Glaucoma damage can occur very quickly, so it’s best to be very defensive (or at least, I feel better about it). Erik – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – excuse me, but retina could be have many problems with a non diagnostied or not threated glaucoma… the important is having a good opthalmologist. regard to everybody piero (new of here.. and sorry for not have introduced myself before) That is quite true; my point was simply that you don’t need to see a retina specialist if the only problem is glaucoma; any ophthalmologist.should be able to manage that.
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Smart. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Also, if you have migraine, you should know that it seems to effect the progression of glaucoma. Get your eyes checked regularly, aside from all the other specialists. An optomitrist is quite qualifed to diagnose glaucoma suspects/occular hypertensives, and they don’t cost near the price of neurologists. This must be why my neuro checks my eyes at every appointment. Dana
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Also, if you have migraine, you should know that it seems to effect the progression of glaucoma. Get your eyes checked regularly, aside from all the other specialists. An optomitrist is quite qualifed to diagnose glaucoma suspects/occular hypertensives, and they don’t cost near the price of neurologists.
This must be why my neuro checks my eyes at every appointment. Dana
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If you have migraine, it is very important to have your eyes checked out regularly because migraineurs tend to write off any vision trouble to migraine.
good point,, I know I tend to follow that line of thinking myself,, although Dawn makes sure I get in for a complete eye exam every other year,, being legally blind in one eye herself she takes regular eye check-ups for the whole family very seriously Bear but first me remove OLD from this yahoo addy, please check out my better half’s on-line projects www.amazon.com/shops/inland_canal_general_store www.cafeshops.com/everythinggoes www.keen.com/Dawn+777
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I have a less common form of glaucoma called low-pressure or normal-tension glaucoma. What that means is that a glaucoma test would never have detected it because my intraoccular pressures were always in "normal" range, but my optic nerves aren’t strong enough to withstand those pressures. I was very fortunate that 10 years ago, my optometrist spotted a tiny blind spot in my peripheral vision during the visual fields test. I’ve used all the eye drops and oral meds. Still, the disease has progressed to the point that I’ve lost 35% of the vision in my right eye, 10% in the left. The only option left to save my vision is microsurgery to actually cut a tiny flap in my eye to let the fluid drain out better and get the intraoccular pressures lower than drops and meds will get them. One eye is done. We’ll be doing the other in the next few weeks. Then, it’s a waiting game to see if my optic nerves will withstand the lower pressures. If not, there’s nothing else that can be done for me. Glaucoma specialists at Ohio State University tell me there’s a correlation between this kind of glaucoma and Migraine. They say that because the incidence of Migraine in patients with this type of glaucoma is three or four times the rate of the general population. My point is, please don’t take any chances. Some optometrists are quite good, but when we got the records from my former optometrist and looked at the visual fields reports, that blind spot was there when he did the visual fields test, too, yet he didn’t say anything about it. If there’s any question, I suggest a good ophthalmologist. Even if your insurance doesn’t cover vision care, they’ll often pay for an ophthalmologist to check you for glaucoma since it’s a disease. Teri
| Also, if you have migraine, you should know that it seems to effect the | progression of glaucoma. Get your eyes checked regularly, aside from | all the other specialists. An optomitrist is quite qualifed to diagnose | glaucoma suspects/occular hypertensives, and they don’t cost near the | price of neurologists. | | This must be why my neuro checks my eyes at every appointment. | Dana | |
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Completely agree. When it deals with your eyes, always error on the side of caution. The only time I saw my grandfather cry was when he was pronouced legally blind. It’s something one never forgets. Good luck Teri. I hope all goes well with your surgery. Erik – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a less common form of glaucoma called low-pressure or normal-tension glaucoma. What that means is that a glaucoma test would never have detected it because my intraoccular pressures were always in "normal" range, but my optic nerves aren’t strong enough to withstand those pressures. I was very fortunate that 10 years ago, my optometrist spotted a tiny blind spot in my peripheral vision during the visual fields test. I’ve used all the eye drops and oral meds. Still, the disease has progressed to the point that I’ve lost 35% of the vision in my right eye, 10% in the left. The only option left to save my vision is microsurgery to actually cut a tiny flap in my eye to let the fluid drain out better and get the intraoccular pressures lower than drops and meds will get them. One eye is done. We’ll be doing the other in the next few weeks. Then, it’s a waiting game to see if my optic nerves will withstand the lower pressures. If not, there’s nothing else that can be done for me. Glaucoma specialists at Ohio State University tell me there’s a correlation between this kind of glaucoma and Migraine. They say that because the incidence of Migraine in patients with this type of glaucoma is three or four times the rate of the general population. My point is, please don’t take any chances. Some optometrists are quite good, but when we got the records from my former optometrist and looked at the visual fields reports, that blind spot was there when he did the visual fields test, too, yet he didn’t say anything about it. If there’s any question, I suggest a good ophthalmologist. Even if your insurance doesn’t cover vision care, they’ll often pay for an ophthalmologist to check you for glaucoma since it’s a disease. Teri | Also, if you have migraine, you should know that it seems to effect the | progression of glaucoma. Get your eyes checked regularly, aside from | all the other specialists. An optomitrist is quite qualifed to diagnose | glaucoma suspects/occular hypertensives, and they don’t cost near the | price of neurologists. | | This must be why my neuro checks my eyes at every appointment. | Dana | |
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I have a less common form of glaucoma called low-pressure or normal-tension glaucoma. What that means is that a glaucoma test would never have detected it because my intraoccular pressures were always in "normal" range, but my optic nerves aren’t strong enough to withstand those pressures. I was very fortunate that 10 years ago, my optometrist spotted a tiny blind spot in my peripheral vision during the visual fields test. I’ve used all the eye drops and oral meds. Still, the disease has progressed to the point that I’ve lost 35% of the vision in my right eye, 10% in the left.
Yikes! Have you considered the less common glaucoma medications. Dronabinol (Marinol) has shown some success, although the side effects might be a bit much. Still, if it was me, I’d put up with a lot of side effects to save my vision. I suppose the herbal form might work too, but I suspect ingestion is the best method do to a longer period of action compared to other methods. Table 4 of this paper reviews the studies. http://www.ukcia.org/research/Thereputic/Therapeut.htm Best of luck with the operation. -Pete
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Amen, Erik. Nothing to take chances with. I feel very lucky to have been diagnosed early. When glaucoma goes undiagnosed until you notice something is wrong with your vision, it’s usually too late to do much. Thanks, Erik. I’m carefully doing what they’ve instructed after the surgery on my right eye, and will be just as careful with the left. Teri
| | Completely agree. When it deals with your eyes, always | error on the side of caution. The only time I saw my | grandfather cry was when he was pronouced legally blind. | It’s something one never forgets. | | Good luck Teri. I hope all goes well with your surgery. | | Erik | | |
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Thanks, Pete. I’ve been on every glaucoma eye drop there is, plus several oral meds. The ALL work. However, the problem is that my optic nerves are so weak that even the significantly reduced intraocular pressures that the meds and drops achieved still continued to cause progressive damage to the occular nerves, resulting in loss of vision. All the meds have reduced the intraocular pressure as much as they’re supposed to, but we have to get the pressures even lower to have any chance of preserving the vision I have left. So, surgery is the only option left. It’s really frustrating to be left with no choices, but that’s the situation. I’ve gotten multiple medical opinions, all the same. Well, I guess I really shouldn’t complain. I can’t even imagine a life without sight, but at least it’s not life threatening. Teri
| | Yikes! Have you considered the less common glaucoma medications. | Dronabinol (Marinol) has shown some success, although the side effects | might be a bit much. Still, if it was me, I’d put up with a lot of | side effects to save my vision. I suppose the herbal form might work | too, but I suspect ingestion is the best method do to a longer period | of action compared to other methods. Table 4 of this paper reviews the | studies. http://www.ukcia.org/research/Thereputic/Therapeut.htm | | Best of luck with the operation. | | -Pete
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Yes. Find a good Opthamologist that specializes in retinas and then hang with him/her. He’ll be able to detect changes early. Also, many medications have warnings for glaucoma. Be sure to have your pressure checked after starting one of these just to be sure. I have both Glaucoma and Macular degen running in my family, so I have a 50/50 shot at either on (and only 25% of staying normal).
The retina specialist is needed for the macular degeneration, but not for glaucoma, which originates in the anterior portion of the eye. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Glaucoma is treated with eye drops and is fairly easy to control. However, if you catch it late, the damage is done. Erik Hey, my maternal bloodline has a history of glaucoma. I watched my great-grandmother go blind. I watched my grandmother start to go blind. I haven’t had much contact with my mother for over a decade. My paternal bloodline brings migraine into my genes. I have suffered for over 20 years, although not as much as many of you. I’m 33, and the last 5 years have lead to me being less able to drive on the highway because of migraine from eye strain. On top of this, I have never had depth perception. The last couple years have lead to me not being able to drive at night. My eye doc says my occular pressure is at the high end of normal, and night vision troubles are common in that case, especailly with a lifetime of migraine. Are there any other migraineurs out there suffering occular hypertension? If so, are you having trouble driving at night, or for long periods on the highway? I’m interested in finding others in my situation to help understand the stats of my future. Also, if you have migraine, you should know that it seems to effect the progression of glaucoma. Get your eyes checked regularly, aside from all the other specialists. An optomitrist is quite qualifed to diagnose glaucoma suspects/occular hypertensives, and they don’t cost near the price of neurologists. Any comments? Regards, Heather
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Yes. Find a good Opthamologist that specializes in retinas and then hang with him/her. He’ll be able to detect changes early. Also, many medications have warnings for glaucoma. Be sure to have your pressure checked after starting one of these just to be sure. I have both Glaucoma and Macular degen running in my family, so I have a 50/50 shot at either on (and only 25% of staying normal). Glaucoma is treated with eye drops and is fairly easy to control. However, if you catch it late, the damage is done. Erik – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey, my maternal bloodline has a history of glaucoma. I watched my great-grandmother go blind. I watched my grandmother start to go blind. I haven’t had much contact with my mother for over a decade. My paternal bloodline brings migraine into my genes. I have suffered for over 20 years, although not as much as many of you. I’m 33, and the last 5 years have lead to me being less able to drive on the highway because of migraine from eye strain. On top of this, I have never had depth perception. The last couple years have lead to me not being able to drive at night. My eye doc says my occular pressure is at the high end of normal, and night vision troubles are common in that case, especailly with a lifetime of migraine. Are there any other migraineurs out there suffering occular hypertension? If so, are you having trouble driving at night, or for long periods on the highway? I’m interested in finding others in my situation to help understand the stats of my future. Also, if you have migraine, you should know that it seems to effect the progression of glaucoma. Get your eyes checked regularly, aside from all the other specialists. An optomitrist is quite qualifed to diagnose glaucoma suspects/occular hypertensives, and they don’t cost near the price of neurologists. Any comments? Regards, Heather
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Hey, my maternal bloodline has a history of glaucoma. I watched my great-grandmother go blind. I watched my grandmother start to go blind. I haven’t had much contact with my mother for over a decade. My paternal bloodline brings migraine into my genes. I have suffered for over 20 years, although not as much as many of you. I’m 33, and the last 5 years have lead to me being less able to drive on the highway because of migraine from eye strain. On top of this, I have never had depth perception. The last couple years have lead to me not being able to drive at night. My eye doc says my occular pressure is at the high end of normal, and night vision troubles are common in that case, especailly with a lifetime of migraine. Are there any other migraineurs out there suffering occular hypertension? If so, are you having trouble driving at night, or for long periods on the highway? I’m interested in finding others in my situation to help understand the stats of my future. Also, if you have migraine, you should know that it seems to effect the progression of glaucoma. Get your eyes checked regularly, aside from all the other specialists. An optomitrist is quite qualifed to diagnose glaucoma suspects/occular hypertensives, and they don’t cost near the price of neurologists. Any comments? Regards, Heather
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